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Salamat Ali is one
of the leading exponents of the genres of ghazal and thumri. Primarily
trained by his father Ustad Sharif Khan, Salamat Ali has been able to
carve an independent identity in light classical singing. In this
interview, Salamat discusses various aspects related to thumri and
ghazal as well as stressing the importance of keeping the art of ghazal
singing alive.
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Interviewer: Saqib Razaq
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Text: Raghib Razaq
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did you begin your career as a vocalist?
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Salamat
Ali (SA): I
was in the eighth or ninth grade studying in Quetta when I developed an
interest in singing. I expressed my
wish to my father who keeping my interest in mind bought me a
German swarmandal to practice on. My seriousness towards music only
developed when I heard Mehdi Hassan Khansahab at a concert in Quetta. I
was very much touched by his performance and personality, and thereby
decided to pursue a career in music. At the age of 14, my father, Ustad
Sharif Khan began to teach me classical music on a formal basis. In 1971 I
had my debut performance on Karachi Radio as a ghazal and thumri singer. I
sang and composed five ghazals in that performance. And the rest as they
say is history.
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are one of the distinguished shagirds of Mehdi Hassan Khansahab, when did
you become his disciple?
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SA:
You will be
surprised to know that my shagirdi to Mehdi Sahab was an informal and
relatively recent event held at a concert in London in 1983. Mehdi sahab
was actually a good friend of my father and asked me to stay with him in
Lahore. I stayed with Mehdi sahab for almost a year and accompanied him
daily during his engagements. Having commitments both in the concert scene
and film industry, Mehdi sahab would have an extremely hectic schedule,
this left me little time for riyaaz. I realised that if I kept to this
routine I would not be able to achieve my goal. So I excused myself from
Mehdi sahab and set off with my swarmandal to Karachi, where I utilized
the classical teaching from my father and Mehdi sahab's inspiration to
carry out a period of extensive riyaaz. Coming
back to the shagirdi, this was unexpectedly and informally held at one of
Mehdi sahab's concert in London where I was present as a guest.
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Salamat
Ali
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Click
to hear sound clip of ghazal
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Which
of Mehdi Hassan Khansahab`s qualities have you been inspired by?
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SA:
Mehdi sahab`s superb tonal
quality and perfection of sur are the elements which have primarily
inspired me. Whatever he would sing would be pre-thought and meaningful
and would not include gimmickry. I was amazed at how this man could give a
performance so flawless that there remained little or no room for error.
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Click
to hear Salamat Ali perform Mehdi Hassan's Ghazal Baat Karni
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Which
other artistes have inspired you?
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SA:
I have always had great respect for my
seniors, in particular Ustad Bade Ghulam Ali Khan, Nazar Hussain sahab (music director), Master Abdullah (music director), and Tufail Niazi (folk
singer) are some of the names which come to mind. I am also a huge
fan of the Indian flutist Pandit Hariprasad Chaurasia, he is an amazing
artiste who I respect as one would respect an ustad.
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have you been able to create a distinct style of ghazal gayaki?
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SA: Even though
Mehdi sahab has been a source of immense inspiration, I have been able to
carve a style of my own with the help of my classical background, which
has allowed me to
naturally develop my own musical identity.
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What
are the essential features of a ghazal performance?
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SA: Today,
ghazal is being sung by artistes of various backgrounds each exhibiting
their own version ranging from an extremely light form of ghazal to
a heavily classical ghazal where the singer will go to the extent of using
taans, paltay and tihaais. Mehdi Hassan sahab`s interpretation of the
ghazal has set a benchmark standard employing the balanced use of
classical excerpts to embellish and reiterate the poetic meaning of the
verses. I believe an artiste should understand the collective meaning of
each verse, so that he can express this adequately through music. The
pronunciation of each word should be correct, so that appreciation of the
high literary value of this art form is reflected upon the listeners. The
raag selected for the ghazal should denote a mood reflecting that
described by the poet. As within the ghazal, each verse is unrelated to
the next, the singer must be able to differentiate this difference whilst
adhering within the boundaries of the raag selected. In addition to this a
good voice and sound classical background are essential.
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Salamat Ali explaining the nuances of
ghazal gayaki
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classical traditionalists claim that the ghazal is not part of classical
music, do you consider ghazal gayaki to be a genre or off-shoot of
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SA: I
strongly believe that ghazal gayaki is a classical art form. For example,
I will sing a short classical bandish in Raag Aiman and then apply a verse
from a ghazal, please judge for yourself.
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He
sings:
” Kinaare Kinaare Kinaare Kinaare………….…..”
And
then
”Rait pe likh ke mera naam mitaya na karo……….”
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Now if
you compare both pieces you will note the only difference between the two
is that the ghazal has greater lyrical content, but the gayaki has been
preserved nevertheless. Many ghazal singers have introduced raags to
audiences, which were not commonly performed by classical singers. I
regularly try to compose ghazals in uncommon raags. This in itself shows
our commitment to the propagation of classical music. However as I said
earlier, many ghazal singers have depreciated the authenticity of the
ghazal by singing it as if it were a geet or film song, this has given the
traditionalists an opportunity to criticise ghazal singers.
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are your views on the use of western instruments in ghazal gayaki?
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SA:
In this day and age
where commercialism is the means of survival, many record companies insist
on the use of western orchestration. I am not against the use of non
traditional instruments, as music is an international language and any
instrument be it the sitar or keyboard can equally assist in enhancing the
mood. However, if not used sensibly, Western instruments can spoil the
mood and atmosphere of the ghazal, and therefore any use should be subtle
and carefully thought through. For this reason my personal preference and
enjoyment is in performing with traditional instrumentation.
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factors do you keep in mind when composing a ghazal? |
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SA: To begin with I
always try to select a raag which is appropriate for the mood of the
ghazal. From then on
it is a matter of developing a suitable composition within the chosen raag.
It is also a matter of chance on what ghazal clicks with the audience.
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Who
is your favorite ghazal poet? |
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SA: I am fond of
Faiz Ahmed Faiz, Mirza Ghalib, Mir Taqi Mir, Parveen Shakir, Ahmed Fraaz
and Saleem Kausar. |
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present, there have been very few ghazal singers coming up from the
younger generation. How can ghazal gayaki be promoted in Pakistan?
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SA: Television
is the major medium today, and therefore can help promote ghazal singers
on basis of merit, as was done in the days of radio. Half hearted
productions of ghazal and classical programmes can only lead to the demise
of this art form rather than promotion. Audiences in Pakistan are still
receptive to ghazal gayaki as they were 30 years ago, but now people are
driven by trends and icons. It is for broadcasters to demonstrate the
beauty and sophistication of ghazal to prospective listeners and show that
this form of singing is likeable. I think, it would be greatly
misfortunate if ghazal is not preserved by Pakistanis as it has developed
and matured in Pakistan to become an essential part of our musical
heritage.
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Salamat
Ali in conversation with Saqib Razaq and Inam Mir
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In addition to being
an accomplished ghazal singer, you are also known as a thumri vocalist,
which do you enjoy more?
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SA:
I am passionate about singing thumris as this
enables me to make greater use of my classical training. In fact thumri
gayaki has helped me immensely in embellishing my ghazal performances as I
can apply variations and style of thumri within the ghazal. My father`s
wish was that I sing thumri, and so I have maintained this side by side
with ghazal.
Click
to hear sound clip of Salamat Ali perform a thumri in Raag Piloo
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What
is the difference between thumri, dadra and kajri?
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SA: Thumri
and dadra are more popular amongst the three. Kajri is primarily sung in
Poorab and so it is not practised in Pakistan. Dadra is restricted to the
six beat (dadra) rhythmic cycle. In thumri the artiste has a larger canvas
on which to work on. Having fewer restrictions the singer can express the
limited lyrical content present in the thumri in various ways using
techniques such as behlaway, moorakhna and light taans.
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What
is the future of thumri in Pakistan? |
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SA:
Specialist thumri singers cannot survive in
Pakistan. The only way to keep thumri alive is by keeping it parallel with
ghazal. |
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What
are your hobbies and pastimes? |
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SA:
In my youth I have played a lot of cricket,
table tennis and football. Other than sport, I have an avid interest in
human psychology and the way individuals relate to each other. |
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Salamat sahab, looking back, are you wholly satisfied with your musical
career? |
| SA: No,
I believe there is always room for improvement. The standard I initially
set out to achieve will continually keep me occupied in seeking a greater
level of knowledge. |
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